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that was very premature about the fiscal cliff. we still see little or no movement on a deal. president obama might want higher rates and cap on reductions for more tax revenues. that could be a deal-breaker and the markets won't stand for long while nothing gets wrong. i don't want to be overly pessimistic. i'm trying to be realistic. i'm reporting what i'm hearing. but stocks did rise a bit on news after cease-fire between israel and whhamas. is israel snaf particularly when we know that palestinians and gaza may just rest unand rearm for the next round? >>> finally as you head out into the thanksgiving traffic, ask yourself where president obama still hasn't given the green light to the keystone pipeline that would give us jobs and energy n independence? now a truly bipartisan group of senators is telling the president to make a decision right now. first up this evening, this is the big question. will we get a deal done or might president obama just let us go right over the fiscal cliff, take the recession, and simply blame the gop? this is a serious question that i'm hearing from washingt
. >> in the scramble to avoid the fiscal cliff, both the president's plan to raise taxes on the wealthy and the republican willingness for revenues could end up hurting charities and rely on the kindness of people with money. >> high income people tend to give very generous gifts. they may give a million dollar contribution to a capital campaign of a local hospital or a local art museum and a small number of donors at the high end that account for really big chunk of the charitable giving in this country and those are the folks that we'd be most impacted by this tax policy change. >> in fact, united way gives 15% of total donations, 500 million dollars a year, from those who give $10,000 or more. so, charities worry that any kind of tax increase on the wealthy could cut into their donations and that money from the wealthy would go to the government in taxes, instead of the charities as donations. >> yes, they aren't taxed on that income, then they're able to give all of that income to charities and nonprofits, back to their communities. >> after all, people have to pay their mortgages a
have haven't, this is going to make you want to puke. 39 days away from a fiscal cliff it turns my stomach because i have been trying to avoid the fiscal cliff. i have a lot to do. i took it upon myself to try to save the country and broker a deal, to try to get them hopping on the trillions of dollars worth of automatic spending cuts and bush tax rates that expire the same second, at stroke of midnight january 1, 2013. with the biggest names in the business community, in the political community, we tried, again and again, to come close to the crisis that could have been avoided at 39 days out remains a chasm. hear their woes, their worries, about being on the brink. fiscal cliff? or fiscal free for all? we are staring at this abyss. no one is even touching it. >> what is amazing to me this is the most predictable financial crisis ever in the history of this country. i suspect we are thought going to anticipate a recession, you will see a recession. >> we should be very careful not to go over the cliff because we will have a negative affect on this economy and on employment. >>neil
-on-year, that is pretty good. >> what fiscal cliff, right now we're up by 12% from our 12 month low. in terms of a month long average that is pretty good, investors are not as frightened as they were some days ago regarding possibility of higher taxes, for capital gains and dividend. lou: they are still in prospect, all of it is. we have folks introducing bills to defer the whole thing for a year now. and the president is making nice, he is talking with ceos, seeming leally almost every othr day. >> market thinks we have a kinder and gently barack obama, who knows that might be correct. but who knows, business sales show no signs of improving sig 1/2 cannily, we'll issue watching what happens this week into start of the holiday shopping scene very closely. lou: at what point do we just acknowledge we're sort of you know bumbling along, economically, that the markets are outperforming the economy. and if we look at this right now, there is a project here that from index of leading economic an kate or to market's behavior that says we have good things in store here 6 months down the road. >> equity can li
you. congress and the president have just 40 days to avoid the so- called fiscal cliff. when the ball drops on new year's eve, tax hikes and severe spending cuts will kick in automatically unless a deal is reached. wyatt andrews spoke with two men who say they know how it should be done, if only washington would listen. >> reporter: two years ago, the fiscal commission chaired by democrat erskine bowles and former republican senator alan simpson proposed every basic element of the fiscal cliff solution being discussed now. their plan was a mixture of higher taxes, lower spending and the reform of medicare and social security. both men told us sacrifice has to come from everyone. >> all of us have to have some skin in the game to get it done. >> if you want something, pay for it. it's a sick idea, but it is an interesting idea. >> reporter: their biggest idea was to increase revenue by combining both the president's demand for higher taxes on the rich and the republican proposal to get rid of tax loopholes. bowles/simpson would eliminate almost every tax deduction for individuals and c
for washington to come up with a solution to the fiscal cliff, another group of folks expected to meet -- expecting to get hit hard. i'm talking about college savers. my next guest sa many families will be worse off next year compared to this year. here to explain, founder an publisher of stayed. welcome back to the show. always great to have you. let's start with this idea. what is the fisc cliff? what is it going to do if we take the budget cuts to college studts aids? >> well, in two ways. the sequestration will cut all student aid but the pell grant by percent across the board. the pell grant sheltered in 2013. come 2014 and also will be cut automatically by 8%. american opporunity tax credit expires the end of 2012 as well. gerri: it sounds like -- and here is your number right here. the fiscal cliff hits it could result in a percent cut in federal student aid. clearly people are going to seek higher costs for college. how can a company that if they have to do it on their own diond cannot borrow money? >> they need to say before college. every dollar you save is a dollar less you
of the taxes scheduled to go up if we go over the fiscal cliff will hit investors. we ask the c.e.o. of utility next era energy lew hay about higher taxes on dividends and stock gains. >> susie: that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! black friday comes early this year. all across the country americans are already lining up outside stores, camping out for the earlier-than-ever start to the holiday shopping season. scenes like this are popping up in shopping mall parking lots. these tents are pitched outside a best buy in tampa, florida, where shoppers are hoping to get the early-bird holiday specials. with big retail chains opening their doors for black friday, on thursday night, there are complaints about companies putting commerce ahead of family time. walmart has been threatened with protests by its employees. the company filed a complaint with the national labor relations board hoping to stop the demonstrations, but the board won't rule on it before tomorrow. diane eastabrook looks at the personal price of thanksgiving day store hours. >> reporter: this is the calm before the storm at a chicago
of the fiscal cliff and higher taxes. in some cases they are laying off, those are troublesome things. even if they resolve the fiscal cliff, higher taxes will mean less spending in the economy and less reasons to invest and hire more people. melissa: i don't even think resolving the fiscal cliff would make that much of a difference because businesses still face uncertainty scare them of making decisis. first it was about obamacare, and they were so upset and didn'tt to spend any money. and then the election, they still didn't want to do anything. resolving the fiscal cliff will not make them feel any better because the resolution will be higher taxes. >> absolutely. and that is where businesses throw out, chamber of commerce, is ask why they are not doing something, it is uncertainty. they ar paid to manage in uncertainty. there's just a lot of nonsense. the economy is not moving along very well. the discussions will not resolve the fundamental problem from exploding entitlements and mammoth increase in spending imposed on america and now want americans to validate, that is why they are no
a fiscal cliff. a very big issue. one of the things that might come about of washington is maybe what we do is take away the mortgage deduction. is that a threat to the market? >> suddenly the fiscal cliff is the number one threat to the market. forget to recession, we are back into housing market crisis, no doubt about it. by the way, if we don't solve the fiscal problems going forward, we have an interest rates by kenaf future. so out. gerri: we cannot win for rying. >> exactly 56 can't win either way. other people talk about the possibility of another recession . i guess you could call it a double dip. it does not feel like we ever get out of the last. do you see recession as a big threat to the housing market? >> not if that this booklet is handled properly. if we have a huge set of government spending cuts and tax increases, certainly a recession would be a problem for the housing arket. on the other hand to mouth we have to be careful not to trade one set of tax hikes for another. you mentiod mortgage interest reduction. a huge mistake to limit the mortgage interest deduction upon whe
other quick issues before thanksgiving strikes us, one is the fiscal cliff. charles, you getting the same feeling i am, a more collective will to try and avoid falling off this cliff and get a deal done perhaps sooner rather than later? >> i absolutely do believe that. i believe that, you know, obama had the stronger hand, because if nothing happens, you know, no one wants that to happen and, in fact, the clock is ticking in that direction, and everybody has an incentive to say let's cut some sort of deal. and i do believe that deal will eventually encompass both revenue increases and some sort of structural realignment of some of the entitlement programs, and i actually believe the american people put aside the right and left. the american people actually are desperate to see their government be able to work, to do something. to make it happen. to not go into another situation where we have another downgrade. that is the exactly the option of what we want coming out of this presidential election, where people i think spoke and spoke rather clearly that we're going to have a divi
congresso spare them on any deaof the fiscal cliff. this on top of unions everywhere flexing their muscles. airports, retail stores, hospitals. it's time to say this gravy train is over. dave, when you have? reporter: all the excesses of government and the phony rules and regulations and useless rules, these unions thre on that. the postal employees union is extraordinary. federal and postal employees are struggling during these hard times. no other group has been asked to financially contribute in the way that they have. we know that they are making twice as much of a comparable job and the private workforce. >> there is no gravy train left. america it is not in the 50s anymore. companies along the lines of this, they can't handle the higher pay rate. there is no future for private and public jobs growing in the sector. charles: in the private sector it is all about this. if they had a really from the white house and national labor relations board. it seems like a favorable media right now. they are on the attack. i don't know if this will backfire or not. holding up traffic at lax and th
and talk about the fiscal cliff. the day after day. lawmakers hike their taxes. one of them is here to join me and explain that. more "money" coming up next. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. p@ [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. i have obligations. cute tobligations, but obligatio.ing. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large profession invesrs choosese ishares for their etf. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. melissa: the days are flying by. have you noticed that there is no solu
the affordable care act on the table in fiscal cliff negotiations. congressman elijah cummings will respond. papa john's plays politics with pizza and the people fight back. >> no, no, no, no. >> we'll tell you about the pizza maker's face-saving move. and republicans never rest. ohio senator turner on the effort to block the vote in 2016. >>> and political comedian, baratunde thurston on how to talk to this guy at thanksgiving. ♪ i want my country back, country back, country back ♪ . >>> good evening, folks. thanks for watching. someone needs to sit down with the republicans and explain to them how negotiations work. when you have no leverage, you don't get to make outlandish statements and demands. house speaker john boehner recently called himself the most reasonable man in washington, but in an editorial for the cincinnati enquirer today, boehner took the very unreasonable position of including obama care in debt negotiations. "the president's health care law adds a massive, expensive, unworkable government program at a time when our national debt already exceeds the size of our country's
table and say a two-word phrase that starts with fiscal and ends with cliff. your uncle at thanksgiving will say we have to do something about that fiscal cliff and really we have to do something to fix our sky rocketing deficit. our national deficit that he will tell you has been going up and up and up like a rocket and spiraling out of control like a something going out of control and paul ryan is just so right and if congress and president obama do not do something to stop the sky rocketing deficit, to sop up the red ink, if they don't by new years or whatever the emergency is supposed to happen we will go flying off the fiscal cliff and not like these guys that mean to do that but more like cliffhanger cliff on the price is right for which going over the cliff is a dire mistake. you will hear this at thanksgiving dinner table. when someone inevitably brings up the fiscal cliff and how our sky rocketing deficit is a huge danger to us, do not crawl under the table. do not give up on thanksgiving. help your giant uncle understand what he is freaking out about is not true. it is easy. t
and now we have the fiscal cliff issue that is facing congress and i think it's a real open question about whether we're going to have a politically induced recession. we're 40, 50 days away. you see a lot of turbulence in the markets over the next months but this is a political crisis that is going to be bring about an economic crisis if it doesn't get solved. but for the entire history of the country people do profoundly disagree with each other, have been and sometimes don't like each other very much have been able to sit across from each other and do the business of the american people. and that's what the moment requires now. on the question of screaming at each other we should understand that there are tremendous market incentives for people to go on tv and attack each other and insult each other verbally and you make a lot of money doing that. for the most part, moderate reasonable voices aren't rewarded with media platforms in the country anymore. and you see a tone and i think that this is a larger cultural issue. it manifests itself in politics but i don't think politics drives i
of the nation's top ceos, to lawmakers about the fiscal cliff. ceo of goldman sachs says what's in this deal is less important than just getting a deal done. >> going over the fiscal cliff, it will be very bad, hugely negative for the stock market, which is, you know, a source of people's wealth. people will feel poor. if we go over for a short period of time and adjust it, we can repair some of those things. but what you won't repair is people's attitudes towards the united states as a responsible debtor. >> washington playing with fire? >> yes. yes, washington is playing with fire. and you don't get -- it's not like a football game when you get the two-minute warning. they don't tell you when you have -- you only get one more chance. >> let's bring in robert, republican strategist and richa richard, a strategist. good morning to you, guys. he said if the retirement age goes up, it is secondary to getting an actual deal. so what does that say? i'll give that to you, richard, first. >> look, business leaders have actually been very strong in a balanced approach. some revenue, some entitlemen
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yet. we all need to focus very closely on the fiscal cliff and sequestration cuts that it includes. the impacts on san francisco could be devastating. until we have more clarity, what congress as a whole might or might not do we will need to remain vigilant about protecting our reserves and the city's financial position. that said i'm encouraged by the reelection of president obama and certainly for the leadership that leader pelosi has given and will continue to give. we will need their leadership as the president must quickly face the challenge of his second term, avoiding this fiscal cliff. in august of 2011 congress passed the budget control act which threatened automatic spending cuts if congress failed to come up with a planned deficit reduction by 2013. these cuts are what we refer to as sequestration. this would mean an across the board cut of between 7% and 10% of all defense and non-defense federal spending irrespective of policy or its impact on everyday people. these cuts would be absolutely devastating to our national and local economies. our -- show that sequestration
cutting back on business travel before the potential fiscal cliff, usa today says. one company will spend $20 billion less in the next two years if the fiscal cliff happens. >>> the boston herald reports massachusetts highway safety director is resigning. sheila burgess came under fire because her driving record includes seven accidents, four speeding violations and a ticket for not wearing a seat belt. did we mention she's the highway safety director? this week, the governor said it was a screw up his words, to hire burgess for that job. she cites health reasons for her resignation. >>> and the telegraph says the pope says in his new book that christ was born earlier than commonly thought. he says dennis small made that mistake many years ago and nobody caught it. many believe he was born between 17 bc and 200 bc. >>> good morning, and happy thanksgiving! weather outside looking very nice as we expect high pressure to build in overhead. temperatures warming up very nicely toward the afternoon a little chilly early on today. but the latter part of the
are progressives willing to give president obama? are they really willing to go over the fiscal cliff? >>> in addition to being thanksgiving tomorrow, it's the 49th anniversary of a moment no one my age will ever forget, dallas. get yourself a copy of my new york times best seller "jack kennedy", out in paperback and a great gift for the holidays. you're watching "hardball" a place for politics. >>> i'm amanda drury with your cnbc market wrap. the dow was up by 48 points, s&p up by three and dow added three. >>> consumer sentiment rose slightly in november but below what analysts expected. jobless claims slid by 41,000 last week but the numbers are still distorted by the effects of hurricane sandy. >>> a bankruptcy court judge granted permission for hostess brands to begin shutting down. >>> and that is it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. have a very happy thanksgiving, everybody. back to "hardball." >>> welcome back to "hardball." with a victory behind him, democrats are feeling more confident in talks with republicans about the fiscal cliff. many on the left have been vocal i
the next few weeks with this looming fiscal cliff. rick: i want to talk to you more about the negotiations over the fiscal cliff in a second, but as far as the consumer confidence part of it goes -- >> yeah. rick: -- where do you think that's coming from? is it just because the election's over in people naturally sort of start or to feel a little more confident no matter who wins? >> yeah, that's exactly right. people kind of happy all the negative advertising, i live in virginia, we were just deluged with negative ads against obama and romney and all the candidates for month after month, and now you're getting a little sense of relief that we're back to normalcy. rick: you know, okay. so the role that consumer confidence can play, because i remember talking to you, gee, must have been like 2009, and the president had just taken office, and the economy was really on a downward slide. >> right. rick: and consumer confidence was low, and a lot of people like you said that that was contributing to the slide, the fact that people had such anxiety about the economy. so conversely, if people are
reflection on us all. now through january 2nd. >>> the impact of the so-called fiscal cliff could hit the country in 41 days if an agreement is not reached. the average american would see the increase of about $2,000. kristen welker is joining me from washington. hello to you, once again. >> reporter: hello. >> let's talk about negotiations and where all this stands. what's the status of things? >> we expect president obama to invite congressional leaders back to the white house in the coming days. you remember he had them here last week. they came out and struck this rare tone of bipartisanship. a lot of peel thought it was a sign of things moving in the right direction, that they could get a deal struck in a timely fashion. since then congressional aides have been trying to put meat on the bones of the deal and we are told republicans' starting offer really is not that different from where they were before the election. they are still basically saying that they want to keep the bush-era tax cuts where they are, which is completely the opposite of democrats want, which is to let the
facing this fiscal cliff and it's scary. so i'm about to have to do things you don't like. but be assured that my heart is in the right place. >> rolan what about this? they voted for obama. but when you look at how many people cnn poll last week, 51% of this country oppose the health care bill. 42% favor it. maybe boehner is on to something. >> no, he's not. because frankly we got to go look at those numbers. remember, there are significant number of people in this country who felt that the bill should have gone further. there are people -- again, simply not oppose and favor. you look at the number of the polls done, a lot of people said they want a single pair option. yeah, i don't favor this one. >> i want canada. >> i favor universal health care. let me be clear. let me channel the obama administration for a second. this is how they're responding to the proposal. next! it ain't going to happen. he can sit here and sing all day saying put it on the table. trust me, it's not going to be on the table. so it's cute. it's an op-ed, it's great. but trust me, even he knows, the president is
in washington with plenty to do trying to negotiate a solution to stave off the fiscal cliff. everyone was getting along last friday when all of the leaders met at the white house but now that it's time to deal things are getting a bit tougher. let's bring in david and steve. happy thanksgiving, guys. thanks for getting up early with us. >> good morning. >> first one to you, david, the staffers have told politico that these talks are off to a rough start and issue is, it's the same, the revenue, how to get it. what congressman tom cole said on "jansing and company" yesterday. >> important as to how you get that revenue. i was disappointed to see leader pelosi say it had to be higher rates or nothing. i don't think that's the way you begin a negotiation. >> what about the possibility of keeping the same rates but eliminating deductions for the wealthy in. >> i think that's a good potential suggestion. >> so you hear that, republicans have opened the door to revenue but not by raising taxes. is that going to be enough? might that be the compromised point? >> if you listen to the white ho
hopeful. that being said, we still have issues looming on this fiscal cliff. we're starting to see consumer confidence weighing a little bit. i think hurricane sandy had something to do with that. >> yeah. >> this could go either way this season. >> you combine the holiday spending with the fiscal cliff. is there a chance that if we get this $586 billion or whatever is expected to come in, that it has a lasting effect on the economy? >> you know, i think -- i would like to say yes. and given holiday -- looking at last year, we saw about 600,000 jobs added for the holiday. about that number is expected this year as well. jobs are good for the economy. spending is good for the economy. but whether we can maintain that, whether a deal can be reached on that cliff remains to be seen. we could see of the u.s. fall into recession. hopefully that won't be the case. hopefully, you know, a deal will be reached and we can move forward. >> that's probably the most pressing issue right now. morgan, thank you for bringing us up to date on the retail angle. >>> coming up, health care hang-ups, a
giving. this is a democratic idea. i'm interested to see what happens with the fiscal cliff. >> i think it's terrible they're taking the deduction away from the billion dollar a year hedge fund people and it's horrible. >> and on your list of things not to bring up, fiscal cliff? >> it was? on the woman's day list. >> and a cool guy. >> fiscal cliff, is going to be-- >> and greg, you want to get out of here. >> i do want to get out of here. what year was the first thanksgiving celebration. 1953? i know you thought it was earlier. bob gives us all a history lesson next. ♪ homeward bound ♪ home, where my thoughts escaping, home where my music is playing ♪ ♪ where my love lies waiting silently for me ♪ ♪ >> in washington the big story on this thanksgiving day is cease-fire on middle east. tonight on special report, this is the first day of the truce brokered by egypt and the u.s. of course, the question, how long will will it last. tensions remain high, we will have a live report from jerusalem. president obama is calling for a unity on this thanksgiving day and urging america
increased 19% in the last year. and where they are concerned is the fiscal cliff. >> new in the next five minutes on abc 7 news at 5:00 what are the must haves on the wish list? 7 on your side michael finney will show which stores are offering the best deals on products this black friday. including computers, tvs and sporting equipment. >> stay tuned for that. 49ers coach cleared the air today about his ig regular heartbeat ask a possible quarterback controversial. he received electrical therapy. as for the controversy, he says isn't one. >> two quarterbacks we're confident have one force. and... we believe in. and... to me, it's opposite of a controversy. >> coach expects alex smith to be cleared soon. back up quarterback will start sunday if smith is not cleared. >> a bay area woman is going back home tonight after an abc 7 news i team investigation uncovered officials violating a federal regulation. >> that is right. now, the county is changing policy moving the woman back into the home she never wanted to leave. >> the report is that families complained public guardian's office moved
months. but many expressed concerns about the looming fiscal cliff that includes tax heights and spending cuts that are set to hit january 1 if congress fails to act. >>> and the dow is up 48 points. the s&p rose 3. >>> a cease fire agreement has for now quieted the violence in the israel-palestinian conflict. rita is live in our newsroom now where heartbreaking stories just continue to pour in. >> reporter: that's right, gasia. there was a cease fire and a feeling of relief today on both sides of the gaza-israel border. with strong backing from the united states, the deal was brokered by egypt's new muslim brotherhood president and he'll oversee its compliance. >> this is a critical moment for the region. egypt's new government is assuming the responsibility and leadership that has long made this country a cornerstone of regional stability and peace. >> reporter: the united states promised additional military aid to pressure israel to accept the cease fire now. the israel prime minister who supported mitt romney over president obama made it clear that the ground invasion remains ready.
mattering about the fiscal cliff and the sky rocketing deficit, they don't know what they're talking about and they probably don't know it is wrong but you i am glad to know other people bring charts to thanksgiving dinner. >> we're preparing them so america can do that. awesome. thanks. >> have a great thanksgiving. >> you, too. you know what i am thankful for this thanksgiving? i am thankful elections, they have consequences. >> the time for bickering is over. the time for games has passed. now is the time to deliver on health care. >> have you read the bill? hell, no, you haven't. >> the supreme court has upheld president obama's health care law. >> the health care law. >> the signature achievement of barack obama's presidency. >> now they're trying to drag it into the negotiations over the fiscal cliff. >> we have a new message from congressman boehner. >> we can't afford it, we can't afford it and we can't afford to leave it in tact. that's not a new message. >> can you say it was done openly? >> that is not a new message. >> they have been defeated three times. >> we had an election.
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' fight to avoid a fiscal cliff as house speaker john boehner says there may be no way to avoid the oncoming tax increases and spending cuts if the president isn't willing to put his signature program, the healthcare law, on the chopping block. what does that really mean? byron york is chief political correspondent at the washington examiner and a fox news contributor. byron i want you to explain this. i mean, look, obamacare passed the u.s. supreme court and obviously it's not going to be overturned by executive fiat by a president mitt romney. so that leaves a third approach and here what john boehner rights, congress has a constitutional responsibility to conduct thorough oversight of the executive branch and congressional oversight will play a critical role in appealing obama care going forward. how in the world does that happen? >> well, it's not going to play a role in p repealing obamacare. this is a little bit of a surprise from bean bone, he said right after the election i guess that settles it, that makes it the law of the land. what the white house will say, obamacare
a favorable external environment, meaning u.s. not going into this deep due to the fiscal cliff. and also signs of improvement in asia. >> meanwhile the french pmi says the survey there suggests a 0.7% gdp drop in quarter 4 for france. >> that seems quite large. we've seen in recent quarters numbers out of front which were higher than suggested by the pmis, however, they then revised down q2. so i'm looking for a contraction of 0.3 in france quarter on quarter in q4. >> what's going to change things, ricardo, what will turn things around? >> i think on the policy front, not much one can effect. fiscal policy will remain tight next year. the ecb doesn't have a huge margin to ease policy. i'm expecting that they will cut the refinancing rate. but i don't think it will go to negative rates for now. so they can only do perhaps 25 basis points on the main refinancing rate. the omt bond buying facility can only be activated if one of the countries apply. and it doesn't look like neither spain nor italy will apply anytime soon. and anyway the bond yields have declined quite a bit compared to jul
of the shrinking on the whole chart back to 1950. when somebody stops inevitably matering about the fiscal cliff and the sky rocketing deficit, they don't know what they're talking about and they probably don't know it is wrong but you can help with visual aids. we have posted both of those charts we just showed you on our blog and you can load them on your smartphone or ipad to pass around the table and print them out on paper in case your uncle doesn't look liking at these new things. those are waiting for you now. we are here for you. you can do this. report back and let us know how it went. that does it for us tonight. have a great thanksgiving. we'll see you monday. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell guest hosted by the spectacular ezra kline. good evening. >> good evening, rachel. i am glad to know other people bring charts to thanksgiving dinner. >> we're preparing them so america can do that. awesome. thanks. >> have a great thanksgiving. >> you, too. you know what i am thankful for this thanksgiving? i am thankful elections, they have consequences. >> the time for
. because of taxes. >> these tax and estate experts are all talking about a provision of a fiscal cliff next year if congress does not act the tax increases from 35% to 55%, and the amount you can give tax free to children will drop from $10 million this year to $2 million next year. talking about a significant tax hike. >> the tax attorney says if couples don't take advantage, heirs will pay, dearly. >> so your so million estate is now worth? >> six, roughly. >> so families with more than a couple million are rushing to gift their children before year'slw'"Ñ end. >> our business is up 30% to 40% now. >> the managing directorb> of mfv. >> we've seen a lot of anxiety. a lot of angst to try to move well for the next generation. >> everyone says it's big. >> it could be big enough to have a t behind the number, as >> back at the day care center where money is tight, door he lowers says $10 million exemption should be qlor but estate tax seems high, even to her. >> people also made that money. and... that they're entitled to half of the money. >> as congress debates what the right rate and exe
to do some of their improvements, specifically -- and i love the way this goes, the fiscal cliff. to the extent that taxes go up, personal taxes go up, i assume that's going to affect -- could affect people in their plans to do, you know, kitchens and bathroom remodels. but there is some uncertainty. but at this point in time we're projecting to end the year to $7 million. that includes 5 million in revenue and 2 million in expenditures. right now year over year if you compare where we were last year, which remember last year was a good year, where we were last year to in october to a year to date now, we're actually up 37% in revenues. and if you look at the measure -- not the whole measure, but a measure of our issued permits, you see that the majority of the increases occur between the 10,000 to the 1 million, which is a large range. but that's in term of the valuation of the permits. anecdotally we're seeing a lot of permits that are coming through the system. we're seeing a lot of the impact fees being paid now that were incurred in 2005. so, we are seeing people finish up t
-care included in talks on the fiscal cliff. he said the courts and american people have already spoken on that subject. >> with regard to the affordable care act, the supreme court, a conservative court at that, has already put its stamp of approval on it. we need to move on. boehner does not want to accept that. i think he is trying to send a message to the tea party he's got something here he wants to continue to fight over. we need to let this go. keep in mind, we voted on this repealing of the act some 37 times already. the american people clearly want it intact. >> now for a look at the national weather, return to nbc meteorologist bill karins. good morning. you're cooking turkey today, right? happy thanksgiving. frs >> yes. my wife will put it in the oven this morning and i will probably get the responsibility for the results. >> dress it up? >> i'm sure if it's really good, she'll take credit. if not, fall on me. the way it goes at my house. >>> good morning, everybody. hope you're off to a good start on thanksgiving morning. yesterday was a nightmare around chicago. flights wer
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